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Postby Kev » 2007-03-20 18:12

Today I took delivery of 5 gorgeous baby Tenodera aridifolia sinensis (Chinese Praying Mantids)

These little guys and gals are about 1.5cm at the moment but should grow pretty quick. Only pics of 3 of them so far because the other 2 were eating at the time.

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Postby smiley » 2007-03-20 20:36

nice, they look cool :tup:

are they going in with you fire bellies?
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can plecs see what they are eating ?
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Postby Kev » 2007-03-20 20:41

lol nope they are going nowhere near the Firebellies :P I have two nice 12" cube display tanks for when they are older.

These 2 tanks will each house one lucky mantis and the rest will be living in smaller fauna boxes which seem to be more common housing arrangements for the little beasties.
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Postby saracen » 2007-03-20 20:52

Um... Lovely. Very pleased for you. No, really I am.

(Backs away quietly and tries not to look at the scary bugs....)
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Postby Kev » 2007-03-20 21:12

They ain't that big Saracen.... well not yet anyway, the Chinese Mantids have been known to grow at quite an alarming rate.

These ones, with proper feeding and such could hit the 1" mark in around a week or maybe a little longer. Only time will tell... more pics once there is a difference in size :D
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2007-03-20 22:07

Awww those are teenytiny! I love mantis eyes, will be lovely to see how they turn out.
Are they eating super-micro cricks, or fruitflies atm?

And Smiley - not a good idea to mix insects and amphibs - amphibs will usually eat small insects, and some larger insects will eat small amphibs... :S

Yuh. Most creatures are best off species only. Fish are a nice exception sometimes.
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Postby Kev » 2007-03-21 14:52

Yeah these guys can be fed on fruit flies or several alternatives if fruit flies are not your thing. These particular ones are on hatchling crickets and I also have some curly-winged flies on their way to me. The curly-wings are a little bigger but the Mantids grow fast at this young stage so there should be no problem there. Well, here are the crickets in comparison to the crickets that my Fat-tail Gecko receives...

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Postby saracen » 2007-03-21 15:08

Yeah, I looked them up.... they will be big enough at 10 cm when they have done all their growing...

And the scary bug eye thing.... *shudders quietly and wonders if the heating has cut out again... nope, just the bug eyes!*

And the skin thing after a shed... oh... *more shuddering*

But if mantids are your thing, then I'm very pleased for you. :D
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Postby Kev » 2007-03-21 15:36

Oh and did I mention that the females eat males after breeding lol... well most of the time anyway. Sometimes the breeding can happen even after the female has bitten the head off of the male.... thank god I'm not a Mantis!
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Postby saracen » 2007-03-21 17:21

Seems like a perfectly sensible arrangement to me.... Saves on the snoring, no doubt! :lol:
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2007-03-22 15:15

*laughs* I'm not sure if those cricks are incredibly tiny, or Forest's are HUGE.

Just curious for future reference - how do you get them out of the tub to either put them in a bigger/longer hold storage, or give them to the animals?
Any tips would be gratefully recieved.

And did you get in touch with Angela after I sent that email? I've just got loads of good stuff dirt cheap off her.
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Postby Kev » 2007-03-22 16:17

Yeah I did actually have a look at the link, some pretty decent stuff there.

As for removing the crickets, I just open the tub slightly and knock a few of them out at a time. The crickets for Forest don't last too long because he is a bit of a pig, but I can see the hatchling crickets lasting a while... there is thousands of them. Again, with the small crickets I just knock a few of them in at a time... just be cautious with bigger brown crickets though, they can't half jump, the blacks I use tend to walk more :P
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2007-03-22 16:58

Nice one! Very helpful indeed.

Heh, I knew I wasn't going to buy a "Kricket Keeper" as I can do everything cheaply myself, but that confirms it.
Might work out how to build a dark trap-box to catch some - sort of like a humane mouse catcher with a door that drops down. *shrugs*

More photos of the chompy creatures?
Can you tell the difference and have you given them names yet?
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Postby Kev » 2007-03-22 17:47

lol, nope no more pictures yet... I am waiting for them to shed first before I update, another no to can I tell the difference. They are all known as 'You, You, You, You and You' :P
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Postby Rob » 2007-03-24 00:18

the classics with me are: that one, this one, trevor dave and you lol
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