White 1/2 band on female guppy

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Postby Stressed » 2006-04-23 23:25

Ok... I have a female guppy that has a white band/ stripe on one side of her body and not on the other it seems slighly raised, is there a disease that shows up like this?

Water is in good condition, tea looking water has lightened quite a bit.
nitrate 20ppm
nitrite 0
Nh4= 0
gh= 150
kh = somewhere between 80 and 120.. i hate these strips
ph= around 7.0

I have a 20 gallon undergravel filteration with air stones, and a powered external charcoal filter that has a biowheel. For decorations I have all natural amazon and micro sword pants and a a piece of driftwood. Tank temp is at a steady 76 degrees F. Water changes at 25 - 50% weekly. Tank is treated with declorinator and 1 tablespoon of aquarium salt per 5 gallons so ( 4 tlbs of salt for the whole 20 gallon tank.)

Even with softening the water the Oto cats still passed away so i gave up... is there any othe algae eaters that are small like ottos but like hard water?

Sold 13 guppys and 7 dalmation mollys for store credit and purchased some non living breeding fish to cut down on the fry... Tank stocking is as follows:

3 copperfire gornami
4 long fin danio
2 male guppys ( one of my males is not breeding, he perfers chasing the males around the tank? I believe I have a homosexual fish.... LOL)
3 female guppys
1 small cool looking feeder guppy ( looks like he is poka dotted and he's mulit colored with a v shaped rear tain fin)
2 female swordtails
1 male swordtail
4 female molly ( 3 are dalmation)( two of these are still small only a month old)
1 male molly
4 female platty
1 male mickey mouse platty
2 corty cats
2 kuhlii loaches
3 gold barbs
and one unidentified fish that looks a lot like a oto but i know it's not an oto..
I know i am seriously overstocked but I have not seen any water problems or oxygen problems.

I aslo have another 20 gallon tank in the garage I am going to test to see if it holds water. I am thinking about starting a more agressive tank with Barbs, angels and sharks. Anyone have any good recomendations for tankmates on that one? And... can Plattys, mollys and swordtails live in that kind of a tank without becoming lunch?

While testing out this tank and it passes... any recomendations on how i should set it up and what fish i should move to it, and what new ones i should get for the new tank? How long do i have to let this tank sit before I know it's not going to leak?
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Postby saracen » 2006-04-24 10:56

The only thing that I can think of that Manifests like that would be some kind of fungus.... Is it cotton-wooly at all, or just a plain band?

The new tank sounds great! I would fill it and leave it for a good couple of days to check for leaks. If you are feeling extra cautious I would go for the full week!

If you are moving fish out into the new tank, Iw ould go for the gold barbs to be moves over along with the move active and robust fish, the Swortails and mollys would be fine, but the platties tend to be a little more relaxed and gentle.

Before you start looking at any more different fish, you do need to build up the groups of the fish that you already have. The corys need to be in groups of 6-8 to be happy, so do the kuhlis.

That would make a nice 20 actually...

I would put the corys and kuhlis in, making them up to their groups, then put the swords in and the mollies, then build up your gold barb school to 8-10 to cut down on the aggression. This would make a nicely active tank.

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Postby Stressed » 2006-04-25 19:01

No leaks in the tank... so I set I up... wow was that expensive. I moved the Danios, mollys, swords, two sails, and gold barbs into it (15 fish). I want to eventually add two angels


IN the other 20 gallon tank I have guppies, plattys, gornami, two kuhlii and the two cory cats. (17 fish). I'm just wating to add a few more platty and guppy females into this tank male to female ratio 3 males: 4 females.
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Postby Stressed » 2006-04-26 02:33

OK what I initally thought was a fungus wasn't a fungus at all it looks like some of her scales are gone and she has red spots. Bacterial right?... I have her isolated in a 1 galloon tank with some Bionx.... lets hope I'm doing this correctly.
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-04-26 07:42

could be bacterial, but also could be a result of aggression: some of the species you've got there will be quite nasty to guppies.

what are your copperfire gornamis? are they the same as honney gouramis?
for now you need to put a full stop on buying livebearers. they will be OK as they are now for a while and by that time you'll probably have lots of fry and you could keep some of the females. in the mean time, my advice is to cycle the new tank and then to sort out the fish between the two.

50% water changes aren't realy a good thing, it's better to do 25% twice a week

*the 20 gal is too small for angels and most sharks*

good luck :tup:
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Postby Surface » 2006-04-26 11:49

Definately dont put angels in a 20g, I have 3 in a 30g and am having agression problems as we speek. And from personal experience sharks need lots of room or will die off within weeks or months.
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Postby Stressed » 2006-04-27 18:11

Ok, how long do I keep this female guppy in the hosptial tank? The red spots are gone but it still looks like she is missing some scales... she'll grow them back right?
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-04-27 18:18

Yes, she will. Keep her ther untill you have completed the full medication course, then you can put her back ;)
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Postby Stressed » 2006-04-27 19:20

I don't plan on purchasing any angels. I have been having luck with the gournamis. I have three honey and three copperfire ... the copperfire are just a very deep red orange and are very closely related to the honey. I added some floating plants since gournamis are bubble nest builders, they needed a place to build one. One of my honey gouramis is really dark with a black bottom fin, while the others are very light colored which i was told that they change colors like that when they are ready to breed... I'll keep you all informed if they actually breed or not :D
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2006-04-27 21:25

Well, the more plants you add the more places they have to hide from aggressive fish...
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Postby Surface » 2006-04-27 21:52

Stressed wrote: No leaks in the tank... so I set I up... wow was that expensive. I moved the Danios, mollys, swords, two sails, and gold barbs into it (15 fish). I want to eventually add two angels



I was just sharing in regards to what you said. Am glad your not putting angels in there.
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