killer enders

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Postby oxymoron » 2007-01-09 13:09

right... i have just got back from work for lunch. i have to go soon....
i dont have a spare tank set up....

my endlers have already killed 2
it looks to be they have eaten the anus of both....

taking water params now just incase it is anything off norm making them do that.


any help?
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Postby oxymoron » 2007-01-09 13:24

pulled the neons out
put them in a unused plastic bin filled with tank water and left it in the tank.

readings are normal

amonia 0
nitrite and nitrate 0
ph just above 7

i gtg back to work now.
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Postby KittyKat » 2007-01-09 15:00

Ok, first thing's first: did you see the endlers "hunt" the neons or did you just come back to dead fish?

Any other signs on bodies apart from the bitten out bits?

It does happen to be that most fish eat already dead ones... is it possible that the neons died and the endlers just started on the bodies afterwards?
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Postby oxymoron » 2007-01-09 18:09

hey KK.

yes i have seen it.
they were constantly trying to nip the back end of them.
at first i thought they were trying to nip the anal fin but from seeing the damage done to my dead ones its clearly not the fins they are interested in
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Postby oxymoron » 2007-01-09 18:13

could the change in tank design make the fish temprement (sp) change?

also.. i lost number 3. it looks to be that i didnt manage to rescue one from the tank :(
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Postby KittyKat » 2007-01-09 18:19

Were the ones which got killed females by any chance?

Endlers can be quite aggressive at times... I had them tear one of my Betta's tails to shreds once after they had been living together for a few months. Only to leave him alone after the tail healed and he was put back.

Are they feeding OK and there were no changes in temperature and the tank is not overstocked?
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Postby oxymoron » 2007-01-09 19:59

*just checked* found one looks male the other two look female but one inparticular looked a bit fat... squeezed it a lil and twas full off eggs :(

Maybe thats a factor? They got a taste for eggs and wanted more?

all feeding was fine
stocking is fine.. if they were all the fry were fully grown females it would be a diff story!!
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Postby KittyKat » 2007-01-09 20:07

I expect it has. I have seen endlers chasing pregnant livebearers before and eating everything that they dropped along the way.
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Postby oxymoron » 2007-01-09 20:12

hmmm..

what do you think i should do with my survivers?
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Postby KittyKat » 2007-01-09 20:15

Either get another tank for them or wait a few days (until the week-end) and re-introduce them then... but anything can happen in the later case.

It could have been the re-deco that triggered it, but I doubt that it was. Much more likely that they got hungry for eggs.
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