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Postby tankgirl » 2006-01-20 13:33

tested water yest and nearly fainted when i saw the colour that came up. PH6!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD!! my poor guppies, danios etc!! what the hell am i gonna do?? gonna get sum coral sand. how slowly must i add it? how much at a time?
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-01-20 13:40

that will help long term. if it's a medium bag, you can add it straight in., if you want to get a big one, add 1/2 then a few days and a pH test later the 2 half.

i think there's some sort of (for marine use) coral sand out there which has some buffering properties... need Kev or Perfectblue for this

remove as much of the wood as you can (leave a tiny bit for the plec tho).

when was the last pH test and what were the results?
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Postby tankgirl » 2006-01-20 13:43

did another one now, still 6! soooo low!!!!!!!!!! what is a good ph for neons and danios. fish have been scuffing like MAD. must be the PH although i thought it was the nitrites! i dont think this filter is working properly. i shouldnt have any nitrites...
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Postby tankgirl » 2006-01-20 13:45

p.s no wood in tank. was saving it for that big tank i bought but as u know it's not usable now and the guy atill hasnt refunded me or fixed it!
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-01-20 13:49

go b**ch at the guy (when you have time)

neons love 5.0-6.5

danios do better in 6.5-7.5

guppies 7.5-9

check if the filter to see if it's cloged with muck? if it is, clean out in a bit of old tank water.
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Postby Surface » 2006-01-20 14:09

I have found that seashells will help keep up the ph of a tank, they keep breaking down or emiting it as long as their in the tank. Hope this helps some, it is a slow process, but may help in the long run so you dont have it drop so low again.
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Postby tankgirl » 2006-01-20 14:53

thats a damn shame cos loads of people keep neons and danios and guppies all together! (me included :-( what are the signs for when the ph is bothering a fish?
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-01-20 16:29

irritation, extra prone to disease, not breeding, not feeding well, not looking great and things like that.

mind that individual fish can live in the pH range outside their own quite happily. if you have the pH around 7 everyone should be feeling quite well.
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2006-01-20 17:00

How peculiar.
And it's just done this all of a sudden?

I wonder what caused it.

The tank we've got the snails in had a piece of cuttlefish in it - that crumbles quite quickly if that's any help. Was it well though, as it can be a bit salty.
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Postby Mick e. t. » 2006-01-20 18:14

Sorry I am late in here but please, please don't rush, don't jolt that pH back up, you,ll do more harm than good. What is the pH of your tap water? If it is higher than your tank at the present then water changes are the way to go. Dumping any sort of agent in there to bring it back up can and most probably be to truamatic for your already stressed fish.
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-01-20 18:16

just thought i'd meantion this, it has happened before (see another post somewhere here) last time (if i remember correctly) the pH droped to about 5. tap water pH was normal as well as all other readings.
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Postby Mick e. t. » 2006-01-20 18:21

10% water changes every day until you get the pH back to where the fish are happy again. I really cant emphasise how important this is especially for your neon's
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-01-20 18:24

*i think he means the slow increase in pH rather then the higher pH ;) )
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Postby Mick e. t. » 2006-01-20 18:27

Once you have the water back to normal then that's the time to think about adding buffering material such as coral sand and only then as already suggested
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Postby tankgirl » 2006-01-21 19:11

no, last time my PH rocketed to 8.5/9!! it was higher than a marine tank! now its plummeted.

mike, the fish dont seem stressed in the least.. they eat like pigs. everytime they see me they swarm at the surface expecting a treat! they steal the plecos food after they've dmolished their flakes! sometimes i dont think the pleco gets enough food but i dont know what to do cos if i put extra in they eat that too! actually, thats a problem too... how can i get pleco to the food without it being pached by these greedy buggers? they get fed plenty, twice a day.

also, the guppies are still breeding, the males dont ever leave the females alone.. and the neons have grown SO BIG! even a friend who saw them when i got them commented only yesterday on how massive they are!
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