advice on old tanks please.

Postby hamburger » 2006-04-15 11:38

Yesterday had to have been one of my luckiest days since I started this hobby. A couple of weeks ago a friend who was visiting told me he used to have aquariums but hadn't used them since he was a kid. Anyway his mum turns up for easter yesterday with a car full of stuff for me. Most of it is out of the arc including what must be Eheims first attempts at filters! But there were 3 small 18L (4 Gallons) tanks that I have checked out and are good and a 160L (35 UK Gal / 42 US Gal). Now the tank hasn't been used for about 15 to 20 years What do you guys think I should do about the silicone? It looks ok but I am a bit nervous about filling it! :cheers:
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Postby sharkdude » 2006-04-15 13:13

ill just say before mike@aa reads it its silicone
i sugest u fill the tanks with water to check for leaks(so in the bath iz ideal not on the dresser lol) and then let them dry once their found take the tank outside(in a shed would be ideal)fill them in a let the silicone setand set up the tank as normal
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Postby hamburger » 2006-04-15 17:48

I live three floors up and I'm a bit nervous about putting any water in the 160L What I was hoping was that someone said something like I'll tell you how to re do all the silicone or something but it doesn't look like it!
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2006-04-15 20:04

You might have to take the whole thing apart.
You can get away with patching leaks - but not full coat I don't think.
Can you fill it up downstairs? Use a hose from a lower level neighbours?
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-04-15 20:10

actually you don't... if there are no obvious leaks, you can remove all the old silicone from the inside using a very sharp blade... then re-do all the joints with new sealant (you gotta do the whole thing in one go) let it dry for 1-2 weeks then test!

you realy have to make sure that there is no silicone left on the sides before you put the new one on or it won't stick.
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2006-04-15 20:14

^_^ What I meant was you couldn't cover the old silicone - for exactly that reason.
It's a big job - but do-able.
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Postby hamburger » 2006-04-15 21:02

KittyKat wrote: you realy have to make sure that there is no silicone left on the sides before you put the new one on or it won't stick.

so I remove the silicone from the inside with a razor or something but leave the glass stuck together with what is between them yes????

No IBF no chance of doing it downstairs!

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Postby KittyKat » 2006-04-15 21:07

yes... unless it's all obviously falling appart.

but you want to completely re-do the bars for holding the condensation glass and any of the bars between them
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Postby -Rambler- » 2006-04-16 01:00

<a href='http://groups.msn.com/LyreTailsAquarium/leaktank.msnw' target='_blank'>http://groups.msn.com/LyreTailsAquarium/leaktank.msnw</a> , Here is a link with some step by step. It would be a good idea to reseal it. I would keep it full of water for a few weeks to be sure. I had a hand me down get a slow leak after 3 weeks. Engineering of silicone sealant has gotten alot better the last 10 years. I wrote similar step by step in here somewhere, maybe 911 but can't remember the thread. The use of tape as a border is reccomended. A razor knife is a useful tool for removal. Love the free stuff. Early this week I happened upon a free 75 US Gallon. Thursday I picked up the new 75G w/overflow for SW. Hey, gonna go salty with me? :D I've only spent $2,000 so far, no biggy :unsure:
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Postby hamburger » 2006-04-16 07:06

-Rambler- wrote: gonna go salty with me? :D I've only spent $2,000 so far, no biggy :unsure:

No I'm sticking to fresh water or sweet water (s??wasser) as they say over here. Congrats on finding a free 75G that's amazing make sure you get some pics when you start setting it up.

Now what do you mean you've spent ONLY $2,000? :cheers:
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Postby Kev » 2006-04-16 07:42

hamburger wrote: Now what do you mean you've spent ONLY $2,000? :cheers:

Its quite an expensive hobby isn't it :P
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Postby Surface » 2006-04-16 12:12

Since your 3 floors up try it out in the tub or shower if it will fit. That way if you find a leak its in a safe place for leaks. :tup:
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Postby hamburger » 2006-04-16 13:07

ok but what I would like is peoples opinions as to whether I should silicone the whole thing while it's still dry or try it out after it being dry for 20 yrs. Which is the safer option? Keep in mind that I don't actually have a stand built for it and anywhere to really put it yet so I'm in no hurry! :cheers:
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-04-16 13:25

it's probably gonna leak anyways, so might as well re-do the whole thing ^_^
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Postby Surface » 2006-04-16 14:00

Like Kat said because after sitting dry for a few+ years, a definate reseal is in order.
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