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by **KittyKat** » 2005-12-28 22:33

not even corals? or not even a few shrimp? or not even a few crabs? ... which one?

by **Sam** » 2005-12-28 22:35

shrimps and crabs. Most crabs are difficult to keep in any size reef, due to their destructive nature. (Don' quote me on that, I'm not 100% sure)

by **KittyKat** » 2005-12-28 22:46

Kev said i could manage 2 smaill shrimp in a 5L pico... or a crab for that matter...

by **Sam** » 2005-12-28 22:55

Only if you have a really tight hold over params. You'd really need to know what you were doing.

by **dementedlullaby** » 2005-12-29 06:04

The only other tank I can make into marine at the moment is a 15g and that won't be much more than the near 10. I do plan on keeping params as stable as I possibly can and of course will take my time with adding everything. I know someone who has a 2.5g nano that has 2 shrimp and 2 snails. This has been running for awhile so I'm planning on grabbing tips from them. It's also more cost effective this way as I don't really have 600 dollars to pitch for just a tank and equip right now, just trying it out to see how I like it

If I can convince my parents to start the marine tank that my mom wants to start then I may ditch this idea and just take care of theirs mostly. We'll have to wait and see.

by **Sam** » 2005-12-29 09:03

dementedlullaby wrote: I do plan on keeping params as stable as I possibly can and of course will take my time with adding everything.

Easier said than done. If I were I would just put all my efforts into trying to your parents to let you have a 150l+ reef.

by **Kev** » 2005-12-29 13:24

Depends what crabs you go for..... just stay away from the carnivorous ones. Crabs with 'spoon' shaped claws tend to be the safest ones as they are usually herbivores, or omnivores. As long as Nitrates are kept at zero then there shouldn't be a problem, even some corals like Nitrates anyway and seem to grow better in it.

by **Innes** » 2005-12-29 14:34

keeping 0 nitrates is almost impossible in any sized tank, a small tank is even harder to achieve this as there is less water to dilute the pollution.

a small tank is unlikely to have a great filtration system, its unlikely to be fitted with a skimmer, UV or any kind of marine lighting, combine that with unstable water parameters and you have a nightmare tank for marines.

by **Kev** » 2005-12-29 16:01

There is always one that is against the whole Nano reef thing. It is possible yes and it does take more work... -_-

by **Innes** » 2005-12-29 17:40

I didnt say it cant be done, just trying to give practicle advice that may benefit someone.

by **KittyKat** » 2005-12-29 18:15

you are right Innes, nano reefs are hard work and definately not for fish

& Kev is also right in saying that they can be kept for coral displays

by **Innes** » 2005-12-29 19:05

kev is right, it can be done.

but you need to keep the water stable in terms of salinity and also pollution free, its very hard to do in a small tank.

<a href='http://www.sgreefclub.com/srctotm/srctotmdanano.htm' target='_blank'>click here</a>
this guy started with a 10g nano tank with corals - look how nice his corals are now!!!

by **Sam** » 2005-12-29 19:22

Wow! A feast for the eyes

by **KittyKat** » 2005-12-29 19:27

nice! hopefully mine will be as nice one day!

by **Kev** » 2005-12-29 23:26

Thats another thing I didnt mention, salinity stability. An ATO (automatic top off) is going to become your best friend

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