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Postby Milkshake » 2006-01-29 18:02

There are ram snails at my pet store, they stay small but they are expensive, they keep them in there plants tank to keep the algae out, these snails don't eat plants or hurt them, they just consume algae very fast!
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Postby KittyKat » 2006-01-29 18:47

ah yes... ramshorns... they do eatr plants, but not much... and some of them can get to 1inch + although the most common ones max out at about 2cm
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Postby hamburger » 2006-01-29 19:56

Mike@AmazonAquatics wrote: or hair algae (shorter brown, green, or black, strands growing all around and over the leaves of rosette plants e.g. Amazon Sword)?
Hair algae might be a lighting + nutrient problem, seems to occur most often where people are adding liquid plant fertilisers to the water, substrate fertilisers are much better... and more logical if you think about it.


I guess it's hair algae then. If it's a lighting porblem how long do you normaly recomend leaving lights on per day? :gulp:
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Postby Sam » 2006-01-29 20:11

In a planted tank 10-12 hours a day
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Postby -Rambler- » 2006-01-31 03:02

Hamburger, I know you have 150L tank and it is planted w/ newly aquired CO2 injection that you are still sorting out. What plants do you have and how densely planted (a few plants, moderately or heavily planted) is it? Also, is your lighting over 80 watts? If so what is the wattage? assuming you are using fluorescent or MH. IME snails (larger ones like the apples and rams) did OK at keeping the glass somewhat clean. Otos will eat all algae except Black Brush Algae (BBA) and SAE's will eat all algae. I like otos because they are very small and can sit on the smallest and most delicate leaves of plants, and don't add much to the bio-load. Also, if you think of it this way, excess nutrients phosphorus and nitrates are the cause of algae problems, lighting is an enabler. In a planted tank nitrates are usually very low 5-10 ppm (thats also a good target area). Phosphates should be a 1/10 of the nitrate level. Example nitrate 5 ppm, phosphate .5 ppm. Aquatic plants don't use as much phosphate as terrestrial plants. When phosphates start to get over that ratio, is when planted aquariums have problems with algae blooms (aside from to intense lighting, without CO2 injection). Potassium is another story, aquatics quickly use them and they are usually under dosed. One thing I have done is almost stopped dosing an all-in-one fert. I am only adding iron, magnessium and potassium. Once in a while I use the all-in-one that also has all trace elements in it. This has benefited greatly. Soon I will only be giving individual doses. The substrate ferts are great if all you have is root feeders, but some plants dont and draw the nutrients from the water column. You mentioned pale leaves, usually an indicator of iron defficientcy. With all this said, when you get your CO2 levels up to target area , 10-25ppm, your plant growth should be rapid enough to utilize most of the nutrients and starve off most of the algae. I like a little algae growth myself, not the unsitely kind, but a little bit makes the set-up look more natural, IMO.
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Postby hamburger » 2006-01-31 12:01

**** wrote: Hamburger, I know you have 150L tank and it is planted w/ newly aquired CO2 injection that you are still sorting out. What plants do you have and how densely planted (a few plants, moderately or heavily planted) is it? Also, is your lighting over 80 watts?

It's actually my small 55L tank that I'm having so much of an alqae problem with. It's lightly planted and with just a 15W bulb. No CO2 just a small filter and an air stone.

As for the plants in my 150L I have no idea what they are called. Do you know a good site that has photos that I could see what I have in there?

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Postby -Rambler- » 2006-01-31 15:05

It's actually my small 55L tank that I'm having so much of an alqae problem with. It's lightly planted and with just a 15W bulb. No CO2 just a small filter and an air stone
Check Phosphates if you have a test kit, also nitrates.
As for the plants in my 150L I have no idea what they are called. Do you know a good site that has photos that I could see what I have in there?
<a href='http://www.tropica.com/default.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.tropica.com/default.asp</a> hope this helps, I have other sights US based that have actual pics, but I find this one is helpful, I think they are based in Germany.
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Postby Mike@AmazonAquatics » 2006-02-10 12:45

Ideal lighting period depends on plants, fertilisation, type of lights etc... it's a bit of a suck it and see thing. I've found that unless you are adding CO<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>2</span> then eight hours a day is plenty... my tanks at home are on timers that come on at 2 PM and go off at 10:00. Most books recommend 10-12 hours, but when I tried that I had plagues of hair algae all over the leaves of the Amazon Swords, might be necessary for some of the more light demanding plants though?

Floating plants help (a lot!), as they cut down the intensity of the light and mop up nitrates.

As a few people have said Otos are lovely little algae eaters for planted tanks, but they can't do the entire job on their own and really only do well in softer water. Algae shrimps eat hair algae and black tufty stuff, but don't live very long (18 months max).

I've got lots of hair algae in my main tank at home at the moment, I think it's because I thinned out the floating plants too much and changed to new flourescents a couple of weeks ago. There are about 12 Otos in there, some of them quite big now, the biggest ones are about 8 years old and 7 or 8 cm long, they keep green algae in check, but won't touch anything hairy. IME hair algae usually disappears within a few weeks of a major clearout, which is about as long as it takes the floating plants to completely cover the surface again... draw your own conclusions from that.

Tropica are excellent for plant info, their website is well worth a visit (see Ramblers link) . If you can, get hold of their book "Tropica Aquarium Plants" ISBN 87-986854-1-4, I think there is a new edition out now, so that ISBN might be out of date, it's only a little book and not expensive, but packed with useful info on aquatic plants and lots of really good pictures.
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Postby hamburger » 2006-02-11 07:12

Mike@AmazonAquatics wrote: If you can, get hold of their book "Tropica Aquarium Plants" it's only a little book and not expensive, but packed with useful info on aquatic plants and lots of really good pictures.

I might just order myself one, thanks for that. :cheers:
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There are fewer ads on Cyber Monday
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Say goodbye to the opening of the store
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Online sales on Cyber Monday are the hottest
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Different stores will shine
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Fashionista loves Cyber Monday
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