Ammonia

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Postby -Rambler- » 2006-02-02 02:40

I was wondering of the availability of "free" ammonia availability in the UK. In the US it is sold in grocery stores with other cleaning products. It usually is a no-frills generic brand name and its contents is something like :deionized water, ammonia. It contains no scents, soaps or other ingredients. The reason for its use is a supplement for a fishless cycle. I use it and its very cost efficient, about .75$ US for 1l. This is more then enough to cycle a lifetimes worth of aquariums. I used to use a cheap brand of fishfood and let it rot. I noticed that using dead prawns in the UK is common. A few advantages of the "cleaning" type of ammonia is 1) no horrible smell, unless you get your beak right over the open bottle. 2) less chance of "unfreindly" bacterial growth and parasites, worms etc. 3) Precise, consistant level of ammonia (with a little experimentation). This is even more crucial during the 2nd phase of the cycle.
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2006-02-02 09:35

Lol - I usually cook my prawn first - I find it's safer that way - whatever was on the prawn will be dead from the microwave.
I find it difficult to get the ammonia round here, so I stick by this method as I've had the most experience with it - although it means end results can happen anywhere between 2 and 6 weeks I've found.
Mind you, I leave the prawn in until I get the first fish/aquatic animal in, then I remove it. Keep the ammonia up - it's usually a big prawn.
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Postby Mick e. t. » 2006-02-07 03:08

Household ammonia is readily available in the U.K. I know a few people in the hobby that use this method of fish less recycling. (I personally don't). For those who are interested in using this method <a href='http://www.csupomona.edu/~jskoga/Aquariums/Ammonia.html' target='_blank'>here's </a>a link that might be of help. You will find loads of links at the bottom of this article which will take you to more information on this topic. All interesting stuff,
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Postby hamburger » 2006-02-07 08:23

Mick e. t. wrote:For those who are interested in using this method <a href='http://www.csupomona.edu/~jskoga/Aquariums/Ammonia.html' target='_blank'>here's </a>a link that might be of help.

Thanks that was very interesting. Do you think that ammonia alert thing is available in the UK too? :cheers:
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Postby -Rambler- » 2006-02-07 13:01

This link is very useful, if you scroll down there is a chart on toxicity of ammonia concerning levels of temp. and pH when doing a cycle with fish. IME using "donor" material from an established aquarium the cycle can be done in 48-72 hrs., sometimes . Beginner FAQ: The Nitrogen Cycle it is one of the first I came across a while back. Alot of forums use this article as reference. If you go to that particular articles home page "the Krib" there is tons of useful info and articles. From DIY projects to explanation of lighting , very good.-----Mick, well done, have you ever tried this (fishless cycle), even if you don't intend to use it it is an interesting experiment and useful in case of emergency ;)
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Postby Mick e. t. » 2006-02-07 13:59

Not sure on it's availability in the U.K., Google the brand name, there's bound be a supplier somewhere, you might even find one in Germany, viel und gluch,
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