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Postby stevie123 » 2005-11-22 09:35

As a newcomer to the world of tropical fish keeping i only had books to read about looking after you new friends in their aquatic world. I am not the worlds greatest memory man so i wrote a list of daily/weekly jobs for the tank.ie..
Weds...Change water....
Thurs...feed plants...
Sat...water tests...
I dont know if doing this will help anyone but it helped me into a routine of caring for my tank and fish.


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Postby Mick e. t. » 2005-11-23 15:44

Brilliant stevie123, another tip for all, keep a journal/diary, record all your readings, spawnings, even things you might not consider significant at the time. You never know, it might become relevant sometime in the future,
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Postby Indigo Blue Fish » 2005-11-24 11:36

Best thing I ever came up with is "Cleaner Mondays". The day of the week everyone hates, you go to work and everything - but once your tank is tested, cleaned and W/Cd - you don't have to do much until next Monday!
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Postby Sam » 2005-11-24 17:12

I do everything on a Sunday afternoon, unless there's a problem of course.
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Postby mrssittingduck » 2005-11-26 11:40

i do a weekly 10% water change in all my tanks and a monthly 25%
this helps keep it fit and healthy
usually on a sunday to
and also while doing this i only clean half of my gravel, this helps to keep the bacteria needed for keeping the tank in tip top condition,
i feed my fish when i get up and b4 i go to bed everyday but no food for 1 day in a month this allows them to clean out their internal organs of the rubbish they hold:)
as my tanks have been well established i dont need to do the tests as regular as the people who are just starting out
as it is well maintained
although when i add new fish or add something new to the tank i will leave for a day before i do a test this then tells me of any problems that may have been caused to the bacteria cycle due to new fish etc
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Postby Mick e. t. » 2005-11-26 15:39

Hi mrssittingduck,
It is never my intentions to offend anyone, so I hope you wont be but, for the benefit of beginners I have to say your maintenance schedule is not one I would recommend. I hope you accept this critique in the way it is intended. Your methods obviously work for you and, long may they do so.

You haven't said what you keep or how big your tank is, I am genuinely interested. I suspect that you have more than adequate filtration and, if that is the case, it would explain why your regime works. There is one practice you carry out, your gravel cleaning, which is wrong and, under normal circumstances could be very detrimental. I am not going to say anymore, I am refering all beginners to the article on tank maintenance which can be found in the 999/911 forum.

Please forgive the following reitreation, with respect; It is never my intentions to offend anyone, so I hope you wont be but, for the benefit of beginners I have to say your maintenance schedule is not one I would recommend. I hope you accept this critique in the way it is intended. Your methods obviously work for you and, long may they do so.
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Postby mrssittingduck » 2005-11-26 16:50

hi, no offence taken,
my tank is a 600 gallon tank
it has in it 8 internal filters and 2 large external filter , my tank has been extremely well maintained throughout the years i have had it running and all it houses is my 2 irredescent sharks and a pleco at the minuite as my other fish were transferred over to different tanks, the irredescent sharks in the tank are only small at the minuite at about 8 inches but they can grow to around 52 inches but rarely over 20 in captivity also in their is my crayfish who gets on well with the sharks
this will allow for the growth of the fish , at present due to size it is understocked
but when the fish grow it will allow for room, i plan to add a few of my angels in their to help the understocking situation until they have grown a bit more
as it holds a lot of water the water i take out is always from the bottom and i only clean 1 half of the gravel thouroughly the other half i vacum just above it which pulls up most of the dirt n grime, but also leaves enough beneficial bacteria to allow the filters to stay stable and keep water levels right
my water levels are always clear and as they should be,
the only problem i ever had was when the water board had problems in the water and ph was rocketing up due to the water board
and for that purpose at every water change i always test the tap water and dechlorinate it before adding to the tank,
i do not test the tank every week like most people do but i do test them every fortnight and when adding new fish or ornaments and plants, my tank is well planted and this allows for the reason also of why i dont vaccum all the gravel as the plants also use the crud from bottom of the tank to live on, my plants get fed every week sometimes more than once a week in my experiences when i take out too much water in my tank it changes the water results a lot but that is just my experiences please understand this ,
if i was to change 50 percent or more of the tanks water and also cleaned all gravel their would not be enough bacteria in their to keep my tank stable and as you can imagine 25% of a 600 gallon tank is an awful lot of water to get rid of and takes a lot of time and patience

a well established tank does not take the same amount of care as a beginners tank setting up for the first time also and with the methods i use do keep my tank regular as clockwork,

i used to have an 8 by 8 by 4 ft tank but was destroyed in the fire this held around 1000 gallons

at the minuite all my tanks are going through a change due to new sort of fish i want to keep so are muddled at the minuite but all my tanks run like clockwork
i have had aquarium experts help with setting up of my tanks when i forst brought them and also help with guidence on how to care for them so if my methods are wrong blame the aquarists at rhyl sealife center, although they do not deal with tropical some of the workers their who have been experienced in them and breed fish regularly and taught me all they know and all was confirmed when i joined another fish site and they were using all the same methods

mt tank with irredescent sharks is not currently at my house as is to big to fit in as yet until we move a wall or two but hopefully wont be long before i am able to keep it here :D

i also keep a 6 ft tank that holds 200 gallons and a 4 ft tank and a 3 ft tank
the 3 ft tank of which i am planning on selling soon

i have bred succesfully and up until the fire i was working on my koi angels and changing the colours of them by changing their yellow to a brighter orange colour,
it was slowly working by breeding the generations in their but they havnt bred since the fire :(

maybe one day soon i will get a bit more luck in their ;)

please i welcome all oppinions , but also dont be offended when i say what works well for 1 person does not work well for another, this is the way that has worked with me and i dont think i will change it unless something goes wrong,

i wouldnt recomened a beginner trying things in this way as the tank has to do complete cycle and stay stable for a good long time before it is well enough established

the pic below is of my angel tank which at this time has no lid or lighting or bakground due to the fire so u will have to excuse it , working on building a lid for it at the minuite so wont be long before i have one
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um maybe when i figured out how to add the picture ya will see it lol
it is only 2.27mb but it says it too large to fit on soo weird
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Postby Mick e. t. » 2005-11-26 18:41

:goodpost: mrssittingduck Brill and. as I thought loads of filtration, not a newbie setup :blush: :lol3: Reduce pics to around the 600x440 pixel size, cant wait to see. Good luck for the future,
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Postby mrssittingduck » 2005-11-26 22:35

a pic of my 200gallon
my pictures of my other tanks are soon to come ;)
this is my angel tank at the min but all my tanks are being swapped around as mentioned before but when they are all sorted i will be posting pictures of them
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Postby Sam » 2005-11-27 00:14

Where have you got all the tanks, in a fish house?
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Postby mrssittingduck » 2005-11-28 16:36

Hi,
was thinking of sealing all my doors and windows and just filling my whole house up with water :D
lol
i can wish

some of my tanks are in my house , some are kept in my uncles heated barn :)
like wise in the way i keep some of his birds here and he helps with my tanks when i run out of room :)

I used to keep the 8 by 8 tank in a spare bedroom and god im just glad i built that one myself this was destroyed in the fire

now i got an 8 ft tank by 8ft and is at my uncles , im surprised that the glass survived to build it with as was stored at my home....
safe where it is as incurance wont cover the cost for tanks as i found out cus i made it myself :(

the fire was a few months ago......the fish god knows how survived in the broken tank throughout the fire and the fire men scouped them out of the tank and put them in a diff tank in my house :) so they were not as clogged up with glass and smoke :( the tanks glass was broken hole straight through the middle and in the side all way around it leaving only about 2 inch of glass holding a bit of water and the fish managed to find the little puddle that was left in their :)
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Postby Sam » 2005-11-28 16:59

Every cloud has a silver lining I guess ^_^ At least the fish survived.
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Postby mrssittingduck » 2005-11-28 23:19

yes , i am thankfull for that :D
i care about my fish and would have been gutted if they had died :(
quite sad they are refusing to breed as this spoilt my programme some what but that is life and i didnt just have fish to breed them , i had them to enjoy them :D
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Postby Mick e. t. » 2005-11-29 17:00

Nice set up, don't rate your heater though :lol3: Without going back to check, did you you say your line breeding your angels? Interested ;)
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