Charcoal(carbon)

[sharkdude]

I have tons of the stuff outside and i would be great to use in the tanks as media BUT IBF said it needs to be cleaned any idea's how to go arounnd this?

[KittyKat]

i'll post a proper reply later, but i think charcoal and activated carbon/charcoal are very different pproducts... did you know that the later is actually a medicine used for upset tummies? (don't try this at home! lol the activated carbon used in meds is sterileish)

[sharkdude]

*rubs stomach* yummy....

[KittyKat]

Activated carbon (=activated charcoal) is carbon (or charcoal) which has been chemically treated (there is chemical activation and steam activation) so that it binds mateerials to itself (nitrites, nitrates, tannins, etc...) but it does NOT absorb ammonia, alchohols or inorganic compounds. The charcoal in your case is probably unactivated, so would not make any difference to water quality. If you needed to darken the substrate, pea sized pieces can be used (make sure that there is no "dust" left by washing it through a sieve).

As for it's medical uses...

Medical applications

Activated carbon is used to treat poisonings and overdoses following oral ingestion. It prevents absorption of the poison by the gastrointestinal tract. In cases of suspected poisoning, medical personnel either administer activated carbon on the scene or at a hospitals emergency department. Activated carbon has become the treatment of choice for many poisonings, and other decontamination methods such as ipecac induced emesis or stomach pumps are now used rarely. The recommended dose in adults is 25 to 100 grams. Pediatric dosages are 10 to 50 g or 0.5 to 1.0 g/kg. Incorrect application (e.g. into to the lungs) results in pulmonary aspiration which can sometimes be fatal if immediate medical treatment is not initiated.

For pre-hospital use, it comes in plastic tubes or bottles, commonly 12.5 or 25 grams, pre-mixed with water. The trade names include InstaChar, SuperChar, Actidose, and Liqui-Char, but it is commonly called simply Activated Charcoal.

I have on occasion been given it as a child in tablets and I can tell you that it has almost no taste.

[sharkdude]

you say steam aactivation, what kind? like puting it on a grill over a fire, wait taht smoke.
So on a collinder over a pan or water?

[Mick e. t.]

Hi SD,
Activated Carbon, check it out, it is a good read... click <a href='http://allfishforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1570' target='_blank'>here</a> :tup:

[sharkdude]

thanks mick, i got teh charcoal by burning logs basicly so there is a small chance of it beeing activeated, so I'l wash some later put it in some old tights and tie it next to the filter. I'll wait for your reply though just in case.

[Indigo Blue Fish]

Hrrrmmm. Be very careful, for all the reasons I said earlier.

And SD - the water needs to be PURE - RO water steamed through it should work - otherwise the carbon will use itself out by absorbing the impurities in the non-RO water...

[sharkdude]

Ok will do.

[Mick e. t.]

SD what ever your planing wont work. Activated carbon is produced under intense heat. The bottom line is we are all capable of producing carbon and as pointed out in the article there are few manufacturers that produce carbon that is only fit for sketching/drawing. Quality activated carbon is fairly expensive, granular and if I am correct, is made using coconut, I can not remember whether it is the husk/shell or nut its self...(other materials are used and are just as good if process correctly). So at the end of the day spare yourself and your fish and and buy some some...meant in the nicest possible way of course :tup:

[sharkdude]

I know the article sais 1500F how much is that in C because my ray burn can get to around 500c

[KittyKat]

sorry hun... you're about 315 C off...

[dongdong]

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